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The A45 AMG is receiving a power upgrade from 360 PS & 450 Nm to 381 PS & 475 Nm. The good news is that the GLA 45 AMG will receive this power boost immediately. That's all coming from Mercedes-AMG boss Tobias Moers.

In addition to the power boost, the GLA 45 AMG will also get a few other upgrades from the facelifted A45 AMG. Those include the revised dual-clutch 7-speed transmission which will have shorter 3-7 gear ratios, and the mechanical front axle locking differential.

Mercedes-Benz CLA 45 AMG and GLA 45 AMG to get A45 AMG?s power boost right away
 

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He actually said "before long" rather than immedietely but I think the conventional wisdom is that MY16 is the likely suspect. While not official yet it appears that 16 is going to be late for both the CLA and GLA 45s which is helping fuel those 16 predictions.
 

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I guess it depends on your outlook, its good for me because I'm buying a 16 but if you just bought a GLA45 a few weeks ago before this bombshell dropped you're probably not happy. I know I wouldn't be. Its extremely rare to see this kind of substantial upgrade without plenty of warning which isn't an accident, customers don't like having the rug pulled from under them. It's all good if this was known and buyers decided to buy in anyways buts information buyers expect to have while making their purchase decision was withheld from recent GLA/CLA buyers and that ain't right as the kids would say.
 

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I guess it depends on your outlook, its good for me because I'm buying a 16 but if you just bought a GLA45 a few weeks ago before this bombshell dropped you're probably not happy. I know I wouldn't be. Its extremely rare to see this kind of substantial upgrade without plenty of warning which isn't an accident, customers don't like having the rug pulled from under them. It's all good if this was known and buyers decided to buy in anyways buts information buyers expect to have while making their purchase decision was withheld from recent GLA/CLA buyers and that ain't right as the kids would say.
As i have said before about this

What gets me is they are talking about future changes and they cant keep up with the orders they already have

So my GLA after 3 months of ownership is out of date soon, all this does is devalue my and your cars years earlier than it should.....NOT HAPPY JAN
 

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I guess it depends on your outlook, its good for me because I'm buying a 16 but if you just bought a GLA45 a few weeks ago before this bombshell dropped you're probably not happy. I know I wouldn't be. Its extremely rare to see this kind of substantial upgrade without plenty of warning which isn't an accident, customers don't like having the rug pulled from under them. It's all good if this was known and buyers decided to buy in anyways buts information buyers expect to have while making their purchase decision was withheld from recent GLA/CLA buyers and that ain't right as the kids would say.
That's the way it works though. Your new thing is only new for a while and then they release something better so you feel l like you have to buy something from them again.
 

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True but there is a difference here. Car buyers can and do pay attention to where a car is in its product cycle, is it first year, close to a refresh, is going to be refreshed, close to the end of the current generation, etc. This knowledge is included in they buying process and factored into a decision. Do you want those new goodies, does more or less depreciation matter? It is not normal for card builders to make changes of this scope without plenty of warning and this isn't an accident, it's to prevent alienating current owners. If you were going to buy an A45 you have known for a long time that the refresh was coming. Even before that you could have surmised it was probable based on current practice and the age of the model in its product cycle. No such warning was available here and owners who bought in recently did so without being in possession of the information buyers normally have and because of that were in a false buying position. It's one thing to buy in eyes open, whether someone chooses to wait or to get a good deal on what are now going to be hard to sell 15s knowing what is coming in 16 it's all good. They had a choice. I was going to pick up a 15 only a month ago but couldn't find one on the ground close to what I wanted so I did not. At that time a refresh was expected no earlier than 17, possibly 18, which worked for me since I'm only planned on having the car a couple years. I would have be pretty angry if I had picked up a car and now I was looking at a very substantial refresh that was completely unexpected. I was saved by nothing more than blind luck.
 

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Oh darn.... there goes the resale value of my GLA45...

Only way to up the HP is to get a piggyback then. Unfortunately, we can't do much with the upgraded tranny though. :(

Only upside is that I have been enjoying my 45 for the past 7+ months...
 

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I expected small upgrades along the line but more power and an upgraded transmission, does this mean the transmission i have isn't up to the job
Over here one of these things cost $90000 so I cant pull that sort of money out of the hole between my 2 back pockets to upgrade every time they make major changes to the thing
ATM they are asking NEW price for a second hand 14 model....Its wait and see i suppose
I will keep mine a few years anyway....When the warranty runs out it might be time to see what engine mods are on offer
 

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Geez, they just bumped up the HP of the A45 and they already plan to bump it up again to 400+hp the following gen.

Via: Next Mercedes-AMG A 45 to get over 400 horsepower | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews

A Mercedes-Benz executive has confirmed the next generation of the Mercedes-AMG A 45 will launch with over 400 horses under the hood.

"It is important for our customers to have the most powerful car in the segment," explained Mercedes-AMG boss Tobias Moers.

The output of the current A 45's turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine was recently bumped from 355 to 381 horsepower in a bid to fend off a slew of upcoming competitors including Volkswagen' 400-horsepower Golf R400 and the 382-horsepower BMW M2. Engineers have taken the engine to its limit, so the next A 45 will be powered by an entirely new turbo four likely designed in-house by AMG.

The four-banger will send power to all four wheels via an automatic transmission and an evolution of the current model's 4Matic all-wheel drive system. It is too early to provide performance specifications, though we can say with near certitude that the turbo four will also power the next CLA 45 and GLA 45.

Mercedes-Benz is investing over $1 billion to shift production of its next-gen compacts from Hungary to Germany. Sources close to the automaker have hinted the next A will launch in 2018, and the lineup will be quickly expanded with a sub-CLA sedan as well as with a convertible and a coupe designed to beat the Audi TT.

The hatchback is unlikely to make the trip over the Atlantic, but expect to see the TT-fighting convertible and coupe models land here shortly after their official debut.
 

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That should bring on a lot of smiles since we know when they increase power its always to save levels, just imagine tuning from THAT state.
 

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If you go through the German 2016 GLA45 Configure page it states that the car has 380HP and adjustable ride control and available 8" screen
 

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ugh

As much as I love and enjoy my GLA45, really sad that they added so much in the second year. Would have loved the adjustable ride control along with the power bump and better tranny.
 

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Feel for ya man, I was a car on the ground away from owning myself. Had one been available I would have been an owner and POed but I would have told myself I was thrilled with the car before I knew and it is no less car after I knew. Rationalizing but what else can you do? I've never seen anything quite like this, really came out of nowhere for such a substantial end to end mechanical upgrade. Some folks have said the Viper is a similar circumstance but I don't think it is really an apples to apples comparison. That car was a miserable failure in its first year and something had to be done. This one if you look at available days on the ground has just cooled off from hot to you might find one on the ground if you're not particular. It's a little baffling to me. I've read the press release on why they did it and I get they want to be competitive in the segments but both the CLA and particularly the GLA were able to stand toe to toe with any comparable competitor in 16. The GLA of course because it doesn't even have a comparable competitor. The GLA 45 is the first MB that I both wanted and could afford but when I read about some of this stuff like the cool-aid level service pricing, this debacle here where current owners get shafted, it makes me wonder if I wont be moving on before too long.
 

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Feel for ya man, I was a car on the ground away from owning myself. Had one been available I would have been an owner and POed but I would have told myself I was thrilled with the car before I knew and it is no less car after I knew. Rationalizing but what else can you do? I've never seen anything quite like this, really came out of nowhere for such a substantial end to end mechanical upgrade. Some folks have said the Viper is a similar circumstance but I don't think it is really an apples to apples comparison. That car was a miserable failure in its first year and something had to be done. This one if you look at available days on the ground has just cooled off from hot to you might find one on the ground if you're not particular. It's a little baffling to me. I've read the press release on why they did it and I get they want to be competitive in the segments but both the CLA and particularly the GLA were able to stand toe to toe with any comparable competitor in 16. The GLA of course because it doesn't even have a comparable competitor. The GLA 45 is the first MB that I both wanted and could afford but when I read about some of this stuff like the cool-aid level service pricing, this debacle here where current owners get shafted, it makes me wonder if I wont be moving on before too long.
not to play devil's advocate but a W205 C63 is only 10k away fyi lol
 

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Already been there, you can get a loaded 15 for 83, I mean pretty much everything. When you consider that the new options on the 16 GLA may push it toward the mid 70s loaded it gives a guy pause. On the other hand I've hand one car after another like the C63 and I love em to death but for me part of the charm of the GLA is that it's a place I haven't gone yet.
 

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Same here, its crazy enough for me to want it over other cars.

A base 2016 C63 (non S) with more HP, comes standard, with premium package, decent sport seats, and piano black interior. electronic trunk, performance exhaust and multimedia puts it at 69,000. Everything else besides the electronic nanny stuff is cosmetic which i will toy around with by myself anyways. I do fear first generation woes (like all new models) with this though.


A new M3/4 also comes standard with navi, partial leather interior, Carbon F trim pieces, dual climate control and bi-xenons standard. If you op out for the DCT and row your own gears for 64,000. and about 68,000 with DCT and HK audio. I like how they charge you premium for things like Carbon ceramic breaks rather than nickle and dime you for things.

Residual on BMWs great at the moment too. but again its too boring and i really dislike the pipe in engine noise.
 

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Next year, if the C63 coupe comes close to how beautiful the S63 looks, then I might ask my dealership if they would take my GLA45 (currently on lease) and allow me to get the C63 coupe instead.
 
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